Episodes

April 2, 2025

Ben's Bearish (EP.406)

On episode 406 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: auto tariffs, binary outcomes on Liberation Day, rising uncertainty, why household debt is going to rise, the Mag 7 bear market, the pros and cons of buffered ETFs, the bottom 50%, PE in 401(k) plans, a diverging housing market and more. This episode is sponsored by YCharts. Register for the YCharts x Nick Maggiulli webinar here: https://ycharts.zoom.us/webinar/register/6017424930774/WN_pt05FhS_SW2Q0dbtqFi8Bg Sign up fo...
March 31, 2025

Talk Your Book: Floating Rate Income

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Fran Rodilosso, Head of Fixed Income ETF Portfolio Management and Bill Sokol, VP and Director of Product Management to discuss what a CLO is, how the portfolio is constructed, the possible risks with CLOs, why spreads have remained so low in 2025, performance during recessions, and much more! Learn more at: https://www.vaneck.com/us/en/investments/clo-etf-cloi/overview/ Find complete show notes on o...
March 26, 2025

Did Trump Blink? (EP. 405)

On episode 405 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: how to become indispensable at work, the stock market comeback, the wealth effect, international stock outperformance, who owns the US stock market, 100 baggers, the Jerome Powell rally, watch what consumers do not what they say, how the GFC messed up the housing market, the shrinking middle class, Severance and more. This episode is sponsored by Kraneshares and Fabric by Gerber Life. Explore the KraneShares China & Eme...
March 24, 2025

Talk Your Book: A Better Money Market Fund

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Alex Morris, CEO and Mark Spindel, Senior Advisor for F/m Investments to discuss how TIPS work, why it was so hard to hedge inflation in 2022, difficulties around inflation-protected investing, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to shoot us an email at animalspirits@thecompoundnews.com wi...
March 22, 2025

Talk Your Book: How to be a Supercommunicator with Charles Duhigg

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by author Charles Duhigg to talk about his book, Supercommunicators. Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to shoot us an email at animalspirits@thecompoundnews.com with any feedback, questions, recommendations, or ideas for future topics of conversation. Check out the latest in financial blogger fashion at ...
March 19, 2025

Live From Miami (EP.404)

On episode 404 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: a bear market in Mag 7 stocks, one of the fastest corrections ever, surveys gaslighting investors, a possible consumer slowdown, more travel stories and email etiquette advice, the best movie cities, and much more! This episode is sponsored by YCharts. Sign up today at: https://go.ycharts.com/animal-spirits Sign up for The Compound newsletter and never miss out: thecompoundnews.com/subscribe Find complete show notes on...
March 17, 2025

Talk Your Book: How Private Credit Works

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Phil Bauer, SVP and Portfolio Specialist at Calamos Investments to discuss how private credit differs from high yield, intricacies around specialty finance lending, opportunities in commercial real estate lending, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to shoot us an email at animalspirits@th...
March 12, 2025

The Tariff Tantrum (EP.403)

On episode 403 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: a healthy correction in the stock market, growth stocks getting slaughtered, bonds are working again, recession worries are back on the table, international stocks are outperforming, the slowing labor market, AGI is coming, millennials are going to be waiting for their inheritance, how Covid changed everything and much more. This episode is sponsored by Betterment. Grow your RIA your way at: https://www.betterment.com/ad...
March 10, 2025

Talk Your Book: A Better 60/40 Portfolio

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by JD Gardner, CIO and Founder of Aptus Capital Advisors to discuss who Aptus is, shifting to riskier portfolios using options, using single stock options to hedge risk, misconceptions about option-based strategies, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to shoot us an email at animalspirits@the...
March 5, 2025

Is a Recession Coming? (EP.402)

On episode 402 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: GDP growth rolling over, the probability of a recession is rising, timing a bear market, Ray Dalio's crash calls, the crypto strategic reserve, the bull market in convenience, why we need Social Security, housing as a recession hedge, Keanu's life advice and much more. This episode is sponsored by YCharts and Fabric by Gerber Life. If your investment research and analytics platform is being phased out, make the switch to...
March 3, 2025

Talk Your Book: Custom Portfolio Protection

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Matthew Radgowski, CEO of Halo Investing to discuss the difference between buffered ETFs and structured notes, Halo's new structured note SMAs, using structured notes as portfolio insurance, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to shoot us an email at animalspirits@thecompoundnews.com with ...
Feb. 26, 2025

Time to Get Bearish? (EP.401)

On episode 401 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: the potential for an economic slowdown, Steve Cohen gets bearish, the labor market is slowing, giving the US economy the benefit of the doubt, the top 10% owns everything, rich people are everywhere these days, Berkshire Hathaway pays a lot of taxes, Robinhood is a casino and much more. This episode is sponsored by Betterment. Grow your RIA your way: https://www.betterment.com/advisors Sign up for The Compound newslette...
Feb. 24, 2025

Talk Your Book: State of The Real Estate Market

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Paul Baiocchi, Chief ETF Strategist of SS&C ALPS Advisors and Nick Tannura, Portfolio Manager and CIO of GSI Capital Advisors to discuss an update on office real estate, how investors view REITs, the fundamental argument for investing in malls, why it makes sense to actively manage REITs, an update on flows into the real estate asset class, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Be...
Feb. 19, 2025

Life and Death (EP.400)

On episode 400 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: Jon Carlson's story, dealing with grief, why financial planning matters, Jon's life advice, the power of kindness and the mundane, gambler's fallacy on Meta, the mental freedom of index funds, YouTube's reach, Mr. Belding's age, how to save money at Disney and much more. This episode is sponsored by YCharts and Kraneshares. Get 20% off your initial YCharts Professional subscription when you start your free trial through ...
Feb. 17, 2025

Talk Your Book: A Short History of the Nasdaq 100

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Emily Spurling, SVP, Global Head of Index at Nasdaq and Mark Marex, Senior Director of Index and Research and Development to discuss the original inception of the Nasdaq 100, understanding tech exposure within the Nasdaq 100, why Nasdaq is winning the listing race, why companies enter and exit the index, thinking about the dot com bubble and the Nasdaq 100, and much more! Find complete show notes on...
Feb. 12, 2025

Is $1 Million a Lot of Money? (EP.399)

On episode 399 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: the shrinking number of small businesses, the stock market chart of the decade, why excess capital investment in technology leads to booms/busts, the tech sector will lead to the next financial crisis, making the case for European stocks, baby boomers still rule the day, the relentless bid from 401k investors, timing the housing market, $1.2 million in credit card debt and much more. This episode is sponsored by ProShare...
Feb. 10, 2025

Talk Your Book: How to Eliminate Negative Alpha

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Cole Wilcox, Founder and Chief Investment Officer of Longboard Asset Management to discuss if trend following still works for stocks, how to set the expectations for investors using trend following, positioning alts within a portfolio, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to shoot us an ema...
Feb. 5, 2025

The Dumbest Trade War (EP.398)

On episode 398 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: the financial impact of tariffs, why AI could save the stock market, market return assumptions for the next decade, the Vanguard Effect, levered ETFs, AI Ben, crypto is not a tariff hedge, using Bitcoin instead of a 529 plan, the remodeling boom, peer pressure from friends to go skiing, and much more! This episode is sponsored by YCharts. Check out the Debunking Investing Myths Deck at: https://go.ycharts.com/debunking-i...
Feb. 3, 2025

Talk Your Book: Bitcoin for Anyone

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Matt Kaufman, SVP, Head of ETFs at Calamos to discuss using downside protection for cash, understanding caps and buffers using Bitcoin, the Bitcoin options market coming online, how 24hr crypto trading affects the market, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to shoot us an email at animalsp...
Jan. 29, 2025

Your Budget Sucks (EP.397)

On episode 397 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: Future Proof Citywide in Miami, the DeepSeek rug pull on Nvidia, what this means for the Mag 7 stocks, the most beloved bear market of all-time, Howard Marks on why this isn't a bubble (yet), hedge fund fees, leveraged ETFs, the price of eggs, hiring a private chef, a young couple's monthly budget in Brooklyn and more! This episode is sponsored by Kraneshares. To learn more about the KraneShares CSI China Internet ETF, v...
Jan. 27, 2025

Talk Your Book: The Private Credit Opportunity Set

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Kyle Brown, CEO, President, and CIO of Trinity Capital to discuss valuations in the VC market, what advisors should be asking about when investing in this space, issues with crowding within the private credit space, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to shoot us an email at animalspirits@...
Jan. 22, 2025

Trump Coin (EP.396)

On episode 396 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: a memecoin from the President, what's next for the crypto industry, the golden age of financial fraud, recessions are becoming less prevalent, how much income it takes to be rich, the Sonos app crash, Wall Street thinks houses are overpriced, youth sports for Millennial parents, and much more! This episode is sponsored by Nasdaq. To learn more about the Nasdaq-100® Ecosystem, visit: https://www.nasdaq.com/solutions/globa...
Jan. 20, 2025

Talk Your Book: 3 Reasons to Buy Bonds

On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Dave Braun, Managing Director and Generalist Portfolio Manager at PIMCO to discuss why rates have been moving higher, if the Fed will get us a soft landing, why mortgage bonds look attractive right now, the resiliency of the US consumer, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to shoot us an e...
Jan. 15, 2025

A Key Market Signal (EP.395)

On episode 395 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: the devastating fires in LA, why homes are the most important financial asset for the middle class, a roundtrip in stocks since the election, why rates are rising, nitpicking the economy, Howard Marks is on bubble watch, quantum computing stocks, the anti-social century, Jerry Springer, and much more. This episode is sponsored by YCharts and Fabric by Gerber Life. Get 20% off your initial YCharts Professional subscriptio...