Episodes
July 23, 2025
What is Upper Middle Class? (EP. 422)
On episode 422 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: why stock market returns can't be 15% per year forever, putting the Mag 7 into context, small caps are cheap, retail runs the show now, Opendoor is the new meme stock, investing is easy, owning 50% of a single stock in your Roth IRA, explaining Bitcoin, the Midwest real estate boom, losing your iPhone and more! This episode is sponsored by Vanguard and YCharts Learn more about Van...
July 21, 2025
Talk Your Book: How We Got a Bitcoin ETF
On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Dave LaValle, Senior Managing Director, Global Head of ETFs at Grayscale Investments to discuss: how a bitcoin ETF was approved, what’s coming next in crypto, how to think about the volatility of investing in these assets, and more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’...
July 16, 2025
There Are Too Many Rich People (EP. 421)
On episode 421 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss a nervous stock market rally, U.S. corporate exceptionalism, how the stock market bottoms, the worst decade ever for bonds, rich people who don't feel rich, Apple vs. Meta, Bitcoin's market cap, the upper middle class is getting too crowded, private equity vs. youth sports and more. This episode is sponsored by YCharts and Flat Rock Global. Get 20% off your initial YCharts Professional...
July 14, 2025
Talk Your Book: Option Income Is So Hot Right Now
On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Garrett Paolella, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of NEOS Investments to discuss losing upside to cover downside, surviving bull markets, volatility across indices, fitting these strategies within a portfolio, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s T...
July 12, 2025
I Want To Be An Advisor, What Do I Do?
On this special episode of Animal Spirits at the Morningstar Investment Conference in Chicago, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss best practices on starting a career in the modern world of finance, their own backgrounds on how they arrived at Ritholtz, how to navigate the current state of the industry, the importance of developing your niche, what jobs will (and won't) survive AI, and more! Sign up for The Compound newsletter and never miss out: thecom...
July 9, 2025
A 25 Year Bull Market (EP. 420)
On episode 420 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss faster recoveries in the stock market, the potential for an even longer bull market, pros and cons of deregulation, zooming out on the dollar, why taxes never rise, a weak jobs market for college grads, life in 1776, making $250k a year and still not feeling rich, the worst housing market in America, $1,000 car payments and more. This episode is sponsored by Cache Financials and Fabric by G...
July 7, 2025
Talk Your Book: Autocallable Income
On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Matt Kaufman, Senior Vice President and Head of ETFs at Calamos to discuss the Calamos Autocallable Income ETF (CAIE), a first-of-its-kind fund bringing institutional-style structured notes to the ETF world. They explore what makes CAIE structurally unique compared to traditional autocallable notes, including how its laddered structure offers investors a differ...
July 5, 2025
Talk Your Book: How Public’s Winning the Great Wealth Transfer
On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Leif Abraham, Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Public to discuss updates in fintech, the brokerage industry, and an evolving investor landscape. Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to shoot us an email at animalspirits@thecompoundne...
July 2, 2025
The Top 10 Risks to the Stock Market (EP. 419)
On episode 419 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss recession hypotheticals, all-time highs in the stock market, the death of the permabear, international outperformance, a crashing dollar, the automatic investing revolution, yield magicians, fast food price inflation, AI vs financial advisors, the potential for a housing market correction and more! This episode is sponsored by Vanguard. Learn more at: https://vgi.vg/3GbOsYM Sign up for The Com...
June 30, 2025
Talk Your Book: What Even Is Infrastructure?
On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Scott Litman, Portfolio Manager at GCM Grosvenor to discuss types of infrastructure investments, revenue drivers within infrastructure, the risk/return profile for infrastructure investments, thoughts around liquidity, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Ir...
June 25, 2025
The Nothing Ever Happens Market (EP. 418)
On episode 418 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss why investors are ignoring scary headlines, war vs the stock market, a slowdown in the labor market, not every bad thing is a crisis, all stock markets are concentrated, it's getting more expensive to own a car, Mark Zuckerberg is desperate, the stablecoin opportunity set, baby boomers are never selling their houses and more! This episode is sponsored by CBOE and YCharts. To learn more about I...
June 23, 2025
Talk Your Book: Turning Capex Into Cashflow
On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Sean O'Hara, Director at Pacer Financial and President at Pacer ETFs to discuss why free cash flow is important, how the index is constructed, how momentum works, valuations within growth stocks, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel...
June 18, 2025
We Have to Talk About Sports Betting (EP. 417)
On episode 417 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss valuations not mattering, volatility is the new normal, all-time highs in rich people, bubble behavior in AI, gambling is off and running, limit orders on crypto trades, the housing market is not fair, the downside of illiquidity, Michael's email pet peeves and more. This episode is sponsored by Nuveen and Fabric by Gerber Life. Invest like the future is watching. Visit https://www.nuveen.com/futu...
June 16, 2025
Talk Your Book: Investing in High Yield Munis
On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Steve Hlavin, Portfolio Manager at Nuveen to discuss the muni market structure, the best states for muni bonds, risks around deficits and liquidity, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to shoot us an email at animalspirits@thec...
June 11, 2025
A Bubble is Coming (EP. 416)
On episode 416 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss the stock market bet of the century, the most interesting market environment ever, positive trends in retirement saving, Europe is outperforming, downturns might be different now, the Fed should cut rates, how to invest in AI, crypto is Tradfi now, private market scrutiny, the most 1990s movie ever and much more! This episode is sponsored by T. Rowe Price. Learn more at: https://www.troweprice.com/exp...
June 9, 2025
Talk Your Book: Where to Find Higher Dividend Yields
On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Todd Mathias, Head of U.S. Product Strategy & Development at Franklin Templeton to discuss US outperformance vs international, currency headwinds, macro uncertainty in the US, the value factor overseas, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to ...
June 7, 2025
Talk Your Book: The Joneses Aren't That Happy
On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson speak with Daniel Crosby about his book, The Soul of Wealth. Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to shoot us an email at animalspirits@thecompoundnews.com with any feedback, questions, recommendations, or ideas for future topics of conversation. Check out the latest ...
June 4, 2025
Will AI Take All Our Jobs? (EP.415)
On episode 415 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss why technical analysis matters in a downturn, why stockpicking is so hard, do we need a recession, Jamie Dimon is worried about government bonds, how many millionaires there are, AI deflation vs. government spending inflation, when to worry about government debt, the bull market is self-driving cars, it's finally a buyer's market for housing and much more. This episode is sponsored by YCharts. Get 20%...
June 2, 2025
Talk Your Book: Valuation Still Matters
On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Scott Blasdell, Portfolio Manager and Don San Jose, Chief Investment Officer of the U.S. Value Team at J.P. Morgan to discuss what value means today, looking for quality within value, why valuation still matters, why the wine business is in trouble, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The...
May 28, 2025
Most Stocks Suck (EP.414)
On episode 414 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss long-term bond yields rising, why government debt won't fall, where all the dry powder is coming from, how often you should expect bear markets, a weird time to be rich, $97 salads, why starter homes died, retail bagholders, why everyone takes Social Security early, Tom Cruise and much more! This episode is sponsored by Betterment Advisor Solutions and KraneShares Grow your RIA Your way by visiting: ...
May 26, 2025
Talk Your Book: Investing in Goldminers
On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Imaru Casanova, Portfolio Manager for the active gold and Precious Metals Strategy at VanEck to discuss gold hitting all time highs, gold miners vs gold performance, macro factors investing in gold, demand from central banks, and much more! Learn more at: https://www.vaneck.com/us/en/investments/international-investors-gold-fund-inivx/overview/ Find complete show notes & VanEck's dis...
May 24, 2025
Talk Your Book: The Nasdaq 100 of Crypto
On this episode of Animal Spirits: Talk Your Book, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson are joined by Samir Kerbage, CIO of Hashdex to discuss price action in 2025, narratives around price action, how the index is constructed, Bitcoin's investment thesis, and much more! Find complete show notes on our blogs... Ben Carlson’s A Wealth of Common Sense Michael Batnick’s The Irrelevant Investor Feel free to shoot us an email at animalspirits@thecompoundnews.com wi...
May 21, 2025
Is Financial Education Working? (EP.413)
On episode 413 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss: how retail became the smart money, why long-term investing caught on, where the money is coming from to buy the dips, chances of re-testing the lows, the Moody's downgrade, millionaires next door, takeout food culture, the broken housing market and much more! This episode is sponsored by Nuveen and YCharts. Invest like the future is watching. Visit: https://www.nuveen.com/future to learn more. Learn why 9 o...
May 14, 2025
Winners and Losers From the Stock Market Rally (EP.412)
On episode 412 of Animal Spirits, Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson discuss the China trade deal, retail was right, Wall Street was wrong, price vs. sentiment, markets saved us from a recession, record stock buybacks, 4-to-1 leverage and private equity in your 401k, Michael's real estate deals and more! This episode is sponsored by STF Management. Visit: https://stfm.com/ to learn more. Sign up for The Compound newsletter and never miss out: thecompoundnews.com/subscribe Find comple...